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Abnormous Discord

You have bad logic and poor guidance for the GM

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Yamm Discord

I don’t provide guidance for the GM. That is a comment and suggestion in this improvement thread.

You have no skills and knowledge in the game maybe you should learn how to play first before you speak. Were you the one playing Yield last time and changed to fire elf? That PvP with me was horrible. How did you even come up with such a horrible fire elf build lol. Oh maybe it’s just skill issue too lol

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Abnormous Discord

This just proves how little you know. I haven’t played yield in months and I haven’t logged on for almost a week until today

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Mephi Discord

Let's focus on what's important here

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Mephi Discord

And that is trash talking! Please continue

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Abnormous Discord

This isn’t the place for that.

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PabloGarea site: Garea Discord

Take the Cougar off game, we are better without it

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Abnormous Discord

Ha anyone tested since the update?

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Mephi Discord

DK is strong and likante too apparently, maybe the bad spell rotation was getting in the way of their intended physical attacks

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Abnormous Discord

I wouldn’t waste anymore of your time on this

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PabloGarea site: Garea Discord

Anyone play Cougar anymore?

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wicked thoughts Discord

It's true there are no summon mages on this server.
A simple fix is simply allow the mage to use all their buff spells on the cougar, and simply make this ability available from a rune.

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Falran Discord

There’s probably no cougar mages more because people still want to level. You get basically no xp if Cougar kills everything for you.

It’s also wildly stat heavy. You can get 10 Cha from inventory/gear (excluding karmic on earrings). Then you still need to dump 20 precious stat points into CHA to get it to 28 to get 28+6+10=44. Then your int and Wis and con are going to suck really hard. I bet when KG rings rotate to +2 CHA each in Dec everybody will go Cougar for a week. 🤣

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PabloGarea site: Garea Discord

That's the thing.

  • Cougar costs you XP, while pets don't.
  • Cougar reduces your stats, while pets don't.
  • Cougar deals significantly less damage than four high-level pets.

The only real advantage Cougar has is survivability. But that advantage becomes questionable when bosses that can kill your pets can also kill Cougar, especially since the mage's reduced stats make it harder to sustain healing.

And that's the core of the problem: Cougar's survivability doesn't seem to compensate for the damage loss, XP penalty, and stat reduction.

One person on the server using Cougar and claiming it works isn't convincing evidence that it's a viable option. If virtually every other mage avoids Cougar and uses pets instead, that's a much stronger indication of how effective it actually is in practice.

A class option shouldn't be judged by whether one person can make it work, but by whether it offers a meaningful advantage over the alternatives. So far, Cougar doesn't seem to.

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PabloGarea site: Garea Discord edited

And im not whining, im playing Classic and I use an elf now. Thats just my opinion.

My Cougar on Standard died to Dark Elder .... 😂

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wicked thoughts Discord

@Mephi thank you for making an effort to bring summon mages back into lineage again.
we're still not there yet, but your trying.

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wicked thoughts Discord

maybe lvl 76 allows for double cougar summon.
that would work well.

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Yamm Discord

Lv76 can have a choice to summon Yahee or Varlok. Yahee for aoe and Varlok for single target

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Lineage 1 Reborn Team Discord

Partly done: bosses no longer chain spells back to back, summons no longer take a share of your EXP, and mage summons including the Cougar now grow stronger with your level. A level-76 summon or double Cougar is not decided.

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wicked thoughts Discord

summon mages are not pvp players, they are pve. we farm.
currently if i use 8 dobermans, i put cougar summon to shame.

please make a place in this game for summon mages.

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