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Mage AOE being worse than melee

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F3roz Discord

It feels like mage's identity of the big aoe fast leveling class doesn't exist here like it has in the past. It seems like the int-based or CB-based/never-stop-hunting melee weapons are just way more efficient at killing small, medium, and even large sized packs than they are. As a result it seems like all of the mage mains are default lower level than knights for example. It seems like a lot of the mage mains have melee alts they play instead. Not sure of a solution or if anyone else see this as an issue, just something I thought would be interesting to talk about

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Chadpumper site: zeskington Discord

I agree. Mages kind of suck

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Sexorcist Discord

Mysterious is shooting by all of them. Believe this is a time in exp out thing. Most likely the knights are just putting more time in during the day.

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Yeah i just don’t agree. Mages just plain aren’t that good. Every class illu prince elf DE DK gets custom QOL buffs but not mage

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Falran Discord

Mage is an excellent aoe class. Nothing matches the on demand aoe dps potential of high SP, high int, rune of spellweaving double meteor cast bombs. Some people may not like the playstyle of the class, nothing wrong with that, but they can definitely level here fine. The recent HM revamps only seem to be making it easier or at least more consistent too. I did a -played and have about 575 hours of combat time to level 75 on my mage. I main mage and don't really alt. My friend who mostly plays knight, but also alts, is 71 at about 437 hours of combat time. Maybe they can level faster, not sure, but it's close enough I'd say who cares? Just play the class with the playstyle and abilities you most enjoy.

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WALTUH site: peanut0314 Discord

Yea nothing is wrong with mage leveling and aoe farming here. I’ll be number 1 soon to prove it

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WALTUH site: peanut0314 Discord edited

Mages are THAT good, try pvping without one

And they are unmatched in pve farming for most places

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Chadpumper site: zeskington Discord

Yeah that’s just not true. No point in arguing though

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WALTUH site: peanut0314 Discord

You think mage is bad in PvP or pve?

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WALTUH site: peanut0314 Discord

@Chadpumper couldn’t come up with anything?

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Chadpumper site: zeskington Discord edited

Their damage is lower in AOE in compared to similar server packs in PVE (justice meteor does significantly more)

Their damage in PVP is significantly lower than similar server packs due to elemental resist being so common on gear here

Thanks for your patience on a reply sir

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Chadpumper site: zeskington Discord

In my opinion a slight buff in nuke damage would help them significantly, and keep the 10 mage mains playing so every team has immune buff

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Chadpumper site: zeskington Discord

Melee can AOE as good or better than mages here. Thats just a fact. With 0 downtime due to mana constraints.

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Costume Party site: Spelling Discord

imagine having a spell that could remove mana from monsters and refill the casters mana

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Chadpumper site: zeskington Discord

It appears most of all classes received QOL buffs but not mage. Elf prince illu DE DK

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Chadpumper site: zeskington Discord

Why do that when you can AOE infinitely as a melee? And basically bot doing it on the web client pressing spacebar? Why put in the mental effort for 0 payout

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kiko site: eskers Discord

sounds like you circled around back to the real problem, web browser and bonus zones spawning mobs on melee enabling bot-tier behavior

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Costume Party site: Spelling Discord

is it 0 pay out to have 400 damage firestorm at the click if a button?

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Costume Party site: Spelling Discord

2 more clicks and the mana is back

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Chadpumper site: zeskington Discord

There aren’t mage friendly zones though, so what that you can do that?

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Chadpumper site: zeskington Discord

No high end zones are friendly to that gameplay loop

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Chadpumper site: zeskington Discord

HM9 TOI, desert HM3, DVC HM3, FI HM3

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Chadpumper site: zeskington Discord

All melee friendly

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Chadpumper site: zeskington Discord

Maybe if there was a zone catered more to TU or mass AOE mages would have a better spot in the meta

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Chadpumper site: zeskington Discord

Additionally that doesn’t address their lackluster nuke damage

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Costume Party site: Spelling Discord

lol. Serious? Dopple area in fi is zoned by mages. Tos exp zone is one of the highest exp hours exclusively for mages. 53f toi exp hour is extremely high

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Chadpumper site: zeskington Discord

Or that all of their debuffs were gutted (cancel etc)

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Costume Party site: Spelling Discord

u just dont have the ball knowledge

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Chadpumper site: zeskington Discord

FI and TOS are not high exp

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Chadpumper site: zeskington Discord

Can’t tell if you’re trolling at this point

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kiko site: eskers Discord

Mage only has two actual big issues

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kiko site: eskers Discord

destroy's damage range is from 250-550, thats an entire destroy in difference, why?

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Costume Party site: Spelling Discord

dad what level are you?

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kiko site: eskers Discord

elemental resist makes all elemental nuke types out healable with just potions, thats a bit crazy putting the spam spells into double digit numbers

Dad doesn't level his own char nor a mage so why is he giving opinions

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Chadpumper site: zeskington Discord

Thats irrelevant, 70+ though

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