Future-proofing Edoryu of Ronde to keep it competitive.

There also already exists a precedent with rare/unique weapons having their damage adjusted to reflect their rarity/value with the change that took place on August 1st while discussing Kronos vs Cold -- discord.com/channels/1427113623687401537/1440289191832584…

Hopefully the same view can be applied here for DE's 2nd best weapon in relation to it's output when comparing it to a run of the mill mid-tier Kaiser weapon.

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Isn’t this just a leveling and farming edo anyways?

I have never thought of it like that. Was always under the impression it was the equivilent to Cold weapon in terms of tier. Leveling and farming weapon was introduced as poison claw.

Ronde does AoE and cold weapons do not. How do they compare?

You clearly must not play on this server if your saying Ronde Edo is AoE. I will now take everything you say and said as null and void.

Wat

On Justice Ronde Edo is a 5x5 Aoe Weapon. Very sought after for high density areas. Not meant for pvp at all and just farming exp or items.

Ronde was AoE on 3.63 is the impression I’m under. Funny you want to say my opinion is null. I haven’t pointed out many things here and I feel proved most of them to be broken.

Thebes edo is single target and if you’re looking to maximize the damage on the proc you build for that but INT DE is cheeks right?

item rarity as excuse means 0 till thebes weapons are in game.

It does when it's specficially touted as the end game weapon before FID.

When it's publicly stated that it's one of weapons you should/need to aim for, originally buff it to reflect that stance, have a weapon progression page on the website which reflects it's supposedly so much stronger than every other weapon beside FID, set it's drop rate so low and isolate it to a single highly contested mainland boss that in 6+ months only 2(?) had organically dropped outside of events etc you set a clear roadmap and give it a specific intention and distinction.

Unfortunately through new item(s) being introduced into the game with elemental resistance, lack of class interest due to viability/utility and other factors, the class hadn't gotten the attention it deserved meaning that things like weapon tuning, future proofing and discussion go overlooked.

EDIT: Pretty sure you exists to rage bait, I remmeber now... discord.com/channels/1427113623687401537/1454948310065483…

+7 Dragon Slayer - 55.1 dmg
+10 2hkvs - 55.4 dmg

+7 Cold Chain - 45.8dmg
+10 Thebe Chain - 45dmg

+7 Ronde - 104.2dmg
+10 Kedo - 111.6 dmg
+10 Thedo - 105.7 dmg

These numbers are pulled off the weapon progression page with 135mr and 36ele resist. As you can see, +10B tier is equal to +7A tier for other melee class. Ronde edo needs at least 10dmg more per hit with buffs to fit in with A Tier weapons. The thebe edo is just to show that it is better than Ronde atm.

if we are speaking about weapon tier sure. If we are speaking about weapon rarity then i disagree.
anyway just nerf Kedo to place where it should be so people reborn team could enjoy last summer days drinking beer. Instead of trying to balance every little detail "how it should be"

and if after that are other DE weapons not in right place, then nerf other weapons to . According to ronde damage

also if we are in "should be " track then pleace let every class have 4 spells like knights do. Also make sure 2 of them are usable only in pvp. 1 is useless and last one does cost 1b

im just so tired people speaking all time how "things should be"

oh crap knights can actually use l1 spelss ... fuck me

Real talk, this guy doesn't play the game in any legitimate capacity and this isn't the first time he's just popped up in random threads about something he has zero insight on. If this dude had a lv65+ character id be absolutely floored.

All he's brought up is "summer days drinking beer", nerfing kedo as a viable alternative (???), 4 knight spells, a spell costing 1b (???), and "l1 spells... fuck me".

@Mephi I get it's meme-worthy but it kills any sort of real discourse that people are trying to have here and shit like this takes away from the legitimacy of actual criticism, insight, and discussion. Can someone in a position of power slap a helmet on this dude and escort him to discord.com/channels/1427113623687401537/1508112378791985307 ?

I do think that making the proc direct damage instead of it being earth element would put it in that top spot before fid. At this point I'm just going to make a Kaiser.

So I found out you can -dmgtesttarget on players. So I was planning on doing more testing and get better more accurate numbers.

testing in safety zone might not provide accurate numbers.

Combat zone?

combat/normal prob works

these are in comparison to the fid edo, with 25 and 90 Earth Resist. Dont have 10kedo to test against.

Thank you for this testing Sexorcist.

From your 100,000 swing test results it looks like the per swing average is the following:

+2 Fid: 115.57
+7 Ronde: 87.10
+10 Kaiser: 89.08

Something doesn't look right there. Almost seems like Kaiser Edo is better :)

My guess would be the proc from Ronde isn't being calculated into the damage test.

how much earth res on the target

Asked about this as well.

Even in duels, kedo seems on par/slightly better.

kaiser has +5 ele enchant?

+5 ele enchant goes nuts with burning spirit

With guarder and earring/neck from karma I’m like 29-32 resist

(This is also part of the problem as more items with resist get introduced, ronde falls off a cliff)

And kedo is lv5 fire

i know yours 😛 i mean sexorcist

Level 5 certainly boost the dmg quite a bit but even at lvl 3 on the progression page is super close

with 100mr 30 all resist

The tests were 25earth resist and 90. I wrote quite messily 25ER and 90ER on the pictures to represent each test.

why do you even answer my post? All what i meant was sayd already on first post. Rest, normnal people igonre it because its BS.
only reason why i jumped to this thread was
I saw guy who is trying to sell his ronde without sucess 2? weeks to suddenly ask improve it.
Also if you constantly troll other people then expect people doing it back to you.
IMO opinion it dosnt matter what stats certain weapon has till you know what kind of damage it does compared to other weapons. We have weapon damage table (its fantastic ty)
You buy it . You know what you get. There is no reason to ask to impove item if you dont like it.