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Siege Incentive

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Ronerin site: mjmeuer Discord edited

Current: no true siege action in a month (I think).

Recommendation: incentivize siege through a tiered bonus to castle ownership. Standard ownership benefits each week but multiply those benefits x1.2 for week 2 of holding, 1.3 for week 3, 1.4 for week 4, etc.

Recommendation: increase the number of pledges in an alliance to increase participation in siege. There are a number of smaller pledges that may wish to join but don't have the numbers to contribute and aren't allied to the seiging/defending group because of the alliance cap of 2.

Recommendation: siege stat related bonuses for most kills, my heals, most assists, etc using the data already being tracked. Bonuses could be Adena, leaf blessings, discount at shops, event foods, fancy boots, anything really

Recommendation: big bonus for taking the castle from the incumbent. This incentivizes smaller pledges joining the attackers and making the defending group at a (theoretical) disadvantage

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wylun Discord

Hope that you understand what is the true reason there isn’t a siege going on…more benefits just make the server people stay in one side.

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Ronerin site: mjmeuer Discord

I assume it's because one side is fairly outnumbered. The alliance cap lift would help that. And the incentives make for better competition and reason for seige.

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Ronerin site: mjmeuer Discord

If there's something between the lines here I'm not tracking your meaning

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WTFnow Discord

I think increasing alliance size is a possible solution. But the increase is mutual meaning pb and ut can have more alliance too. Will it really solve the number problem?

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Ronerin site: mjmeuer Discord

There are only so many people on the server, my hope would be a big incentive to TAKING the castle too, in addition to keeping it. That way small pledges are incentivized to join the attacking group

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Ronerin site: mjmeuer Discord

I need to add and clarify that in the recommendation

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WTFnow Discord

Alternatively, the easier route for them would just join the dominating alliance and benefit from castle ownership too.

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Ronerin site: mjmeuer Discord

I think taking the castle would need to have a bigger associated award to balance that

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WTFnow Discord

The underlying problem I think everyone understands. We have limited players on the server and majority of the population is in the dominating alliance while many other PvE focused pledges out there.

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Ronerin site: mjmeuer Discord

The point is to incentivize the seige, not the defense

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Ronerin site: mjmeuer Discord

The reason for the recommended bonus to the owning group is an incentive for the attackers to keep that benefit from the defenders

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WTFnow Discord

It's a double edged sword. If the incentive blows up and we will have a snow ball effect for the defending pledge of keeping it forever.

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Ronerin site: mjmeuer Discord

That's already happening though. That's the status quo. Id like to see that change and get some fun

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WTFnow Discord

I hope gm does not intervene and let the community figure it out how to have active siege.

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WTFnow Discord

We could have a 23 vs 23 siege if we work it out ourselves, but instead you prefer to do 33 vs 13. At the end of the day, it's a number problem. If you guys don't want to even out the number, then let it be I guess.

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WTFnow Discord

If you are willing to change, I can see hope.

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Ronerin site: mjmeuer Discord edited

You're describing a handicap. That's disrespectful to you all, outside the spirit of an incentive and not fun either. Nobody likes to win left handed.

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King Discord

don't think utopia has gone to the last 2 sieges just so mit and pb can fight it out evenly

the problem with pservers is the tiny population and all the pvp is only 2 sided, would be nice to be 3rd/4th/5th partied

increase castle reward, remove all alliances and disincentivize handholding/teaming up, not sure how to fix the teaming up tho

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WTFnow Discord

It's hard to convince that ut would not help with the siege as ut and pb are in formal alliance and the beneficiary of the castle bonus. With the population we have, it's hard to have more than 2 sides at siege.

Would it help if I say MIT would not come siege and you guys can have some real siege all you want and we would not interfere whatsoever? It's fairly clear that PB is asking for some siege action and MIT is done giving them any.

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King Discord

nah i want siege to be so tempting that everyone goes, my pve brother flaaaar, the japanese guys, the evil trader fcfc guys, mit, utopia, pb, the holes

and i don't want them teaming up, i want everyone to fight everyone 🤷‍♂️

zerging and starving pvp is bad for server health

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King Discord edited

would be cool if they could do like a red/blue system attacker/defender

everyone attacks, castle owner defends, every attacking bp prince has a chance to take castle and become the defender

no pledge above the other, just attackers and defenders, and castle owner gets some stupid shit like temp fids or pbuff or something until next siege

i've played some games where there's just attackers / defenders and everyone works together no matter what different clan they're in, it's just fun indiscriminate pvp, they even remove nameplates so you can't tell who's who, no ego involved just pvp

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WTFnow Discord

King's idea is actually very interesting. 👏 Perhaps a server polls to see whether people actually want change or just enjoy having empty siege.

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Thavryn Discord

This seems like an answer even I as a PVE player could get behind. Incentives not so much.

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King Discord

starving siege isn't a real answer for server health, it's just going to eventually make any side bored and stop playing, the utopia dudes see you're not participating so we stopped going so that maybe you'd show up to fight pb

but at the end of the day starving activities is just gonna be a negative effect on pvp

some kind of change needs to be made to dissuade or disallow huge groups of players from teaming up on much smaller groups of players or it's just gonna keep being a dead activity

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WTFnow Discord

MIT isnt the cause of starving siege. We went to siege four times not even trying to take castle, but you guys seem to enjoy having large number defending castle. It's too late for ut to stop going though. It's okay. 👍

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DaiShiFury Discord

How can you say MIT isnt the cause, when your making the choice not to show up, the irony. I am happy we get adena payouts every week, and bonus princess buffs all week long.

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WTFnow Discord

Yeah. This is one of the people that does not want change and prefer status quo 🙂 Don't even need a server poll and you came to prove my point. Thanks and love you~

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DaiShiFury Discord

Your making assumptions my friend, I accept that your team made the first change by not showing up to fight. Your guys have the ability to change again and show up, all your choice. If you continue to choose to hide, even though we lowered our siege numbers for you- thats fine by me. It just shows you cant take even numbers.

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Hobin site: ginjai Discord edited

How difficult is it to hold a castle when you can just fill up the little square at the tower with 3x more than your enemies? And you think this deserves incentives for it? This is almost like me suggesting incentives for anyone name Hobin.

How about incentives for smaller size bp fighting 3x of their numbers outside of siege? This is happening everyday.

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wow Discord

When mit had the numbers , PB was outnumbered but still showed up to all sieges.

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Hobin site: ginjai Discord

We talking showing up siege here? We talking incentives here? What’s the subject here?

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Legolas site: LOOT Discord

Are you joking? You all did this early on with Utopia. And we showed up each and every time outnumbered... Then you all fuck up your alliance with them and they join our side and now it is a problem? lmao.... We even just had PB there zero Utopia and you all still don't show.. Not sure what more we can do besides just let you all have it? lol

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Hobin site: ginjai Discord

What are we talking about here? You talking history, I think the subject is about additional incentives holding castles? I am confused

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Hobin site: ginjai Discord

Showing up or not, what is that related to the subject line here? lol

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Hobin site: ginjai Discord edited

We asking to have castle? What? We are enjoying killing you and daishi everyday outside of siege. I am so confused, I guess I failed school not following the subject line

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DaiShiFury Discord

Hobin the troll, losses giran castle for 8 weeks straight and resorts to discord rage baiting, lmao

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Hobin site: ginjai Discord

Sorry daishi for killing you and Lego when you outnumbered us

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Hobin site: ginjai Discord

Why not showing up in PvP outside of siege for 8 weeks, but first show got killed instantly

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