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Boss pumping in Classic...

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tur2010 Discord

Making a report out of it.
Like some other players in classic, I find this live pushed changes harsh.

2 players in classic were farming Justices. And it wasnt easy. Personally, I offered always to team up on our discord. But players have their own agenda and time allocated to play.

Varlok... Why is it pumped if we cant even kill him on Classic... One person has the key and farmed out his arse to get it... I am the next in line but discouraged when only 76 Seals away...

What if I made it and then another pump? Classic is freaking hard as it is... Anyway, every ACTION has a MOTIVATION.
We dont know what MOTIVATED the changes...

  • Do you guys feel like Justice and Varlok NEED more PvP?
  • Do you feel Classic needs to go even slower? Level an elf... or an Illusionist for the matter.
  • Do you feel screwing classic? (not a pun, some people are mean) Because you want all people play Standard.

I cant argue if I don't know what motivated the changes... And I know it is YOUR server and you can do whatever you feel to. I get that, been there, done that.
But transparency is key... Otherwise the only players left are those investing some other stuff than time.

I dont play Standard. Already have prove of level servicing and RMT is there for sure (dont have prove of this). I play for fun, If I wanted to go PRO and make money out of private server...

Side note: a human being cant hunt for 24/7 for 20 days straight. Just saying. I stopped playing LoA because bots were disgusting.

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Kefka Discord edited

I'm back at home from my holidays trip:
I readed this morning the changes about bosses and the problem it is generating on my bp mates. Here is the problems that I see:
1- Unilateral Changes
@Mephi @Anct @KrazySam and the rest of the staff, you usually do any big changes, subjected to votes, or with previous announcements. It's clear that a change strenghtening the bosses is a change that affects everyone, and a change like that should be at least announced with previous info or in ideal world voted.
2- Classic vs Standard
In Standard they can hit high levels so fast vs classic. This is a problem when you do changes thinking "hey in standart they have enough level time to return bosses to high strenght" or even: "hey in standart they kill so fast" time to strenght them. This is a gap that it's not possible to save unless you have 2 different servers. Because Classic always is going to be 5 times far away from standart just in levels.
3- Impact on players
Our top classic player, said he is thinking seriously about left the game, just because the normal bosses he was doing, justices and some randoms, he can't kill it now.
4- Acquired rights
As you know I work as attorney. When people has something previously and you change to worst, this made a gap or injustice. Because the previous one got benefit for a best right and now they new "law" it's made to avoid the previous situation.

Now with the problems exposed, solutions:

A- Wipe: New laws, new laws for everyone, wipe at least all fidelitys and materials, and then you can make justices strong as hell, like dragons if you want. (That's a crazy solution and I'm not in the line with that solution because everyone get frustrated).

B- New bosses:
Create new additional bosses focused on high level players. So people have 2 options, kill the classic ones or kill the new ones that are strong as hell. This is a good solution, because don't change previous situation.

Continue...

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Mephi Discord

im not going to entertain a discussion where im asked whether i intend to screw classic lol. thanks

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Mephi Discord

if anything some of the crap people have written in the last hours shows that transparency is the opposite of key

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tur2010 Discord

I never pointed you or other of the staff... I was asking for a motivation so I can do some argumentation.
So if you think Justices needed more progression, I can live with that.
I really think you guys are putting an effort.
Transparency is when things are informed before happen 🙂 We were in shock. Some more. Like you are suggesting Varlok is nerfed... I would ask why as well.
We also take the time to POST, because we care about YOUR server. Some people were mad, and I tried to calm them down.
Some changes would be nice to be polled or at least informed some time in advance :/
Just saying.

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tur2010 Discord

P.S. The change has introduced some unbalance about players with FID already and those who don't. Not the case in classic.

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tur2010 Discord

SOLUTION B I talked it internally too.
New items, people happy. New content. And you test them so PARTY required.

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Kefka Discord

Continued...

c- Separated situations on classic vs standard bosses

Classic is 5 times away (at least) from standart time to make bosses on 2 different balances, one for standart and their level promedium and number of playters on that server and one for the reality on classic and the numbers of players.

With all that said, I tried solo Necrose and he killed me vs yesterday that I killed without looking the screen. I needed to go with a friend to kill him, so maybe something has greatly changed.

So finally I'm not saying that changes not has to be done @Mephi I'm just pointing the big problems that I see in a change like this and fearing future changes like that in all bosses making them not possible to solo any of them.

And this fear is because I think a part of lineage game is killing the bosses some with friends some solo.

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Mephi Discord

the increase put in compounded badly which wasn't the intention, now it's nice and linear

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Anct Discord

Thanks Mephi! We'll close this one out based on the changes, feel free to reply if we have any other questions.

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