Pledge only spells used for alliance

if we do this, it would not be enabled in siege zones

Seems like a good compromise

Works with me

That is fair enough since siege has a host of people from every BP there anyway. Support isn’t an issue there.

I think it is a really bad measure, the current state forces you to play as a group, with this measure you can potentially break both PvP and PvE and what would be the sense of a BP essentially?

I requested this a month ago, but it was declined because the GM team wanted to keep the pledges separate for balance purposes. I think the server is very imbalanced at the moment.

I guess you have not met people from other servers? It'll be server ruining

I'll quit it for starters

I don’t want to spark a debate. I just want to eliminate the need to swap members who are in an alliance anyway.
It’s up to the server at this point.
I am just putting it out there.
It really only changes the need to shuffle people around.

this change make nothing improve. that just make the game no balance. and very obvious this change is only benefit for someone only. if this change approved I will just spent more time on my real life things.

From what I am hearing, nobody is interested in the alliance system that is in place.
As it stands now. If you form an alliance between 2 BPs the only thing you get out of it is an alliance chat.
If you own a castle, then both BPs get x2 the princess doll exp bonus.
Seems like my suggestion doesn’t do much for my BP alliance as we own the castle. We will just continue swapping personnel and bossing as per usual.

Ask yourself, what benefits do you gain from that change. We gain minimal.

Also, I’d like to point out that a Royal can buff anyone in its party with its pledge buffs. Regardless of BP membership. We are talking 1 spell (i2h), unless anyone else can think of another spell that is BP only.

As for threats of quitting and going out and experiencing life in general. That’s a good thing to do away. I am an advocate of touching grass more often than not.

Oz was agreeing with you

First I never treats of quitting just spent more time of my real life cuz game has become something that i dont understand. im not like 20yrs ago has some much free time and energy to re-study the game

Lineage Team fight is about teamwork and class uniqueness and cooperation.

i2h can be cast on some1 not in bp then It no point of controlling bp member amount.

this IS NOT improving anything just make bigger alliance stronger "ONLY"

hmmm? immune on alliance too? i dont have much more to comment @Mephi

I believe you are going off the assumption that a mage not in BP or in an alliance can cast it on anyone.
At least that is what your reply is implying.
You would still need to be in a BP and it would only be cast on BP members and alliance members. Not anyone. I don’t understand why a BP would not be required as you are saying

Hobin you are the joke

what are you talking about?

@Mephi do we expect to have this type of comments here?

No not a joke.
Do you have constructive input for or against?
This is a discussion. Let not turn this into something it’s not.

read my last line plz

this IS NOT improving anything just make bigger alliance stronger "ONLY"

@LiveeviL you might want to just propose mephi to increase size of bp, so you and pb can merge together as 1 bp. this might make more sense to proposing casting immue on alliance and party members

Ok. Fair enough.
Not a popular suggestion.
I withdraw my suggestion.
As I said. If the server (community) don’t like the idea. So be it.

Makes a difference at siege for sure

just thinking about, if this proposal gets approved, what is the difference between have spereated bp as alliance vs 1 bp?

Makes a difference at siege for sure

For the record. I am not saying anyone is wrong here.
On the contrary, I enjoy seeing different points of view

whats the advantages of having alliance, and the disadvantages?

everything has both advantages and disadvantages

this is what balance mean

if taking everything from the disadvantage sides and made them to the advantage side, this is called imbalance

An alliance gives you a chat …. That’s it.
There is nothing else.

Without holding a castle. There is no point to an alliance

You want a further answer since you do not comprehend why would anyone quit, it has nothing to do with grass touching (I do that in talking island)

What is the balance of a server in lineage? That player rotation can catch up with effort, that the server has rules which are enforced, and that power dynamics are felt (powerful capitalizes its current power over the upcoming adversary)
What would your change mean?
First, that players could no longer catch up necessarily with effort. Just more alliances! New players would not be encouraged to time their online time to be able to do bosses, thus, effort dynamics would be discouraged and senseless. Furthermore, they would be very exploitable.
Secondly, the server would have to create a lot of new rules and they would certainly create a lot of friction, just as your harmless proposition is already doing. It would be ultimately unhealthy for the server just from that point alone.
Thirdly, the powerful reigning power would see their previous efforts and leveling pointless, for just anyone now could use the spells and members they had to level hard to gather. What would be the point on the social aspect of the game if I can just rotate people? Just add N number of new alliances!

That is a very detailed response based on your speculation.
Thank you for that.

Ah, yes hard pass on this one again

Alliances already have enough bonuses, its supposed to be "annoying" having to swap members etc etc

Otherwise we'd have no bp member cap

It’s OK as I said I withdraw it obviously not popular. Bad idea my fault.

I see the "want" of course but for balance sake yeah not gonna be a thing

Thanks all for the lively discussion on this one. Good convos for sure. We'll close this one out for now.