Rebalance Forbidden Spellbook

@L1R Project Team

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Seer's eye does not sacrifice AC for offensive power. A Seer Eye is safe to 4, so 5 with bzel. This brings its total AC to +7 safely.

Mages do not have access to a shield outside of shield of Sheba that has stun resist.

Also Forbidden shield is designed for completely different classes. Only being usable by DE, Knight, Dragon Knight, Elf and Royal.

Overall the Forbidden Spellbook sacrifices 100mp for a total of 3 Stun resist.

Apologies, should have stated "Traditionally" every other instance of Seer's Eye I have encountered has had 2ac and has been safe enchantable to 4

The tradeoff is (100mp, 2mpr, 30 sleep/para resist) vs (7AC, 3 stun resist) for seer eye & forbidden spellbook
The Sheba human shield should probably be buffed considering how difficult it is to attain at current drop rates.
The forbidden shield has DR instead of (offensive stats), it is a shield after all

This is still incorrect. Seer Eye has been safe +6 on all other servers. Later down the road, it becomes safe +0.

We had conversations about the introduction of this item months ago. At any point, Yamm could have spoken up and discussed concerns around it. We made the decision to move forward with it.

The Illusionist level 30 quest item provides +1 WIS, 2 AC, and is safe +6, which means at basic enchant it reaches 9 AC. With that in mind, having a Forbidden Spellbook for Illusionists that gives +1 INT and +3 Stun Resist in addition to what their level 30 quest item gives does not seem like an unreasonable item.

Maybe we should consider removing it for Mage instead?

if you are intent on nerfing it, maybe jus remove the wis? Illu can choose between their wis 30 quest or upgrade to int with more dmg. but loose some mr. Mage looses out on 100 mana from their 50 mana ball, but gains 2 ac and stun res. No wis mr improvements

An easily obtainable lv30 quest item is incomparable. A rare gear should be used as comparison. Hence I am using Eye of Seer and Sheba Human Shield as alternative for illu and mage.

Specially for stun resist guarder/shield, none of the existing ones offer high ac, mr, int.

There’s really no reason to add int on this spellbook. An illu already has buffs for -20ac, +50 dodge, +2sp, and 100% hit accuracy. So many gears are buffed for extra sp, such as the lich robe. Both classes can wear lich robe btw. The int ring, the hair clip.

These two classes do no need any more attack power, and I think +1 int is not necessary in a gear that offers stun resist and high ac and mr.

Regarding the other post introducing this forbidden gear, firstly I cannot part take in all conversation as this isn’t my job. Also this server is updating day by day. What had worked last week may not be good for today. For example, lich robe was just recently updated.

I believe Mephi has mentioned that gear balances are a journey. Every update has an impact on one or another.

Just a small suggestion to this gear. If it is already a decision to move forward from this item, I am fine with it.

I was more so making a point fro it being fine the way it is. Having options for mages which open up additional playstyles is always a bettter thing than not. I think the spellbook is a wonderful alternative to Seer's eye. Especially for those mages interested in using staves such as IQ, Bapho, and SSoM.

Apologies if that was not clear in my post.

This shield should not be that easy to get.
Sheba shield is so hard to get the Stun resist is hardest resist to have.
But forbidden spellbook only need
0.2-spellbook
0.1-a-scroll
0.01-f scroll
(Hard mode drop more and mob much weak)

But the Sheba shield can not be trade
All items drop under 0.5
Fin degox100
Sheba leatherx200

After so many hard drops
You finally get stun resist

And stun resist gear it’s very rare
Chaos helm
Thebes ring
Sheba shield
Suffering ammy
Most items drop by bosses

It’s should not be an easy item to get. And also way too strong

Chaos helm 4% chance from a boss
Thebes ring - 0.2% per boss ( there are two)
Sheba shield - Crafted
Suffering ammy - 0.2% drop chance from Drowned Males

For clarity it is actually rarer then the suffering ammy. Due to it only dropping from ghasts and not both ghasts and ghast lords.

This item has literally been in the game for literally 31 hours, we should be letting it settle before bashing it for having +3 stun resist.

Illu should not able to use this kind of gears.
50dodge and 20 ac is already make knights hard to land stun on Illu.
And Illu is the class already counter melee physical attacks
And now has a gear that gives Ac Mr Int stun resist.

For mage using is fine.
Lowest hp in game
Lowest ac gears
Lowest DR
Lowest Dodge

And i2h is not 50%dmg reduction

Choas helm -low ac
suffering ammy -5hp regen

All these shows stun resist is rare gears

-5hpr

And Thebes ring need lot people to hunt

Mage is the tankiest class in game self buffed, your reasoning doesn't make sense.

Also 3 stun res helps but it doesn't stun proof anyone. You need to stack multiple stun res items to be effective and resisting.

not to mention the new knight runes which add to stun chance

That’s why you can’t play mage. Why all class choose mage as first target? Easy to kick out and thin like paper.
There is no class can be 1v1 solo Illu.
High dmg won’t miss
High ac and dodge rate
2sec cd stun
70% sleep chance
Elemental cube
100% land Debuff

And this client add more hp on Illu already stop being greedy

you sound confused and lack experience, i can assure you as a main illu there are classes which can beat me 1v1- the fights are gear dependent, and a DE or DK with good gear landing debuffs or using armor break will melt my illu with ease. Not to mention DK's are highly resistent to my stuns with their self buff.

Not sure how I am being greedy, I never asked for this item in the first place- since it was introduced, I think it provides good options for both mage/illu to decide between wanting stun res and ac, or having mana/mpr/sleep&para resists.

Im also going to assume you dont have AB on a mage, because they are not easy to kick out with this spell- along with invis

what the heck are you talking about....

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i think u shd just quit play illu
you didnt know u are countering DE for sure
and DK's weakness is low MR
you may fight DK evenly but DE you just fuk them super easy

give me an example of a class that can kill an equally geared and leveled mage, while the mage has mana ?

okay, so I know a DK who had over 190% mr- and you say DK's weakness is low mr?
I dont know how you can tell me who i can and cannot win against, seems odd considering I pvp here on illu. Illu cant stop the massive dps of a DE if they're wearing a helm of chaos to resist my stuns

One mana dagger and sos ez fight mage….

During that he has low hp for sure

Then de low Mr again

and that still doesnt kill the mage, they venz out and regen

he also had 1800 hp

Do has 1800 only???????

All the spell on dk spent hp and 1800hp only….

what is wrong with 1800 hp on a dk ?

Too less

he probably didnt have adv, it was selfbuffs

Then if u are not sure u should not bring it out and say that here

190mr must be 23 wis with gear