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Revisit whetstone change

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MUNCHEESE site: morgishh Discord edited

The whetstone change is a pretty decent sized nerf to knight in mid to late game PVP (non-cb, average gear) by basically nullifying Bounce Attack.

I'm suggesting that whetstone usage extends the potion CD window by 2x.

I agree that clicking the weapon in your inventory feels really bad, but BA is pretty much in the bin now, and there was at least some counter play required by the other player to repair weps (albeit not the best mechanic).

Maybe there is potential for a BA rework?

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Mephi Discord

whetstone and potion dont share same cooldown regardless

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MUNCHEESE site: morgishh Discord

Does BA do anything else? genuinely asking

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MUNCHEESE site: morgishh Discord

last thing then I'll move on - If whetstones were buffed, why remove the weapon break?

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Mephi Discord

thought about it but its just annoying anyway, and too easy to damage everyone's weapon

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Mephi Discord

perhaps we can come up with something else for BA

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MUNCHEESE site: morgishh Discord

aight, thanks Mephi.

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Flaaaar Discord

Maybe cap the damage to weapons to 3 instead of 6? I mean that annoyance is the intended goal of that spell no? By that logic, getting cancelled is pretty annoying too 😆

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Mephi Discord

1 buff, set and forget, to damage anyones weapon is not comparable

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Mephi Discord

maybe turn it into Disarm Weapon xDD

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Kefka Discord

+6hit in level 60 knight is not a great deal, because level 60 knight, should hit at 100% almost anything in the game. Maybe add some +dmg or some special skill. It's called bounce attack, a chance to unequip enemy weapon or just easy a chance to slow or stun.

Imagine a real sword fight you hit the enemy shield, your weapon bounce, what can happens:
A) you lost your grip: your accuracy goes down or if its a total loss your weapon goes to ground. Translated to game: -xx hit or unequip enemy weapon (how works this on pve???? Chance to wb??)
B) your combat posture is broken, your next attack will be throw from a non correct posture so it will be a slow attack you need step back, to regain your position to attack again. Translated to game: 1) chance to slow the enemy for a brief moment 2) chance move the enemy 1 step back - this is tricky because I know it can generate a problem in game and it's not good because makes the knight move to hit again the enemy.
C) worst situation: you hit the enemy shield your weapon bounce and hitted yourself. It can damage or bash your head. Translated to game:

  1. chance to nullify the enemy attack and damage the enemy with his own damage. Similar to cb.
  2. chance to nullify enemy attack and stun the enemy.

So as you can see they are few solutions to make bounce attack an interesting skill. Specially taking in consideration you need level 60 to use it.

I hope this ideas help @Mephi and everyone.

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MUNCHEESE site: morgishh Discord edited

The idea of the skill requiring a shield is interesting 🤔

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MUNCHEESE site: morgishh Discord

afaik shields become irrelevant when CB comes into play

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MUNCHEESE site: morgishh Discord edited

PvE only type CB that requires a 🛡️? (Just spit ballin)

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Lineage 1 Reborn Team Discord

Partly done: Bounce Attack got a new Legendary rune, Rune of Rebound, that adds extra hits. Whetstones were not changed.

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