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Int elf needs more bow option

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Rufam Discord

Thebes Bow is the only option for INT Elves who use bows. Could you consider a bow with an AoE attack that INT Elves can use, similar to Wind Axe or Winter Spear?
I wish a bow on this list

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pechthefarmer Discord

or a support kind of bow 2h from forbidden , i think they wanna add sum more forbidden stuff like chain n stuff ... maybe a support type 2hander or an aoe type.

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Xelakrap (젤라) Discord

Shield bow? O.o like bow and shield together in a 2hander?

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pechthefarmer Discord

i mean , currently forbidden bow is a 1h , they could make a 2h with totaly diff kind of stats.

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pechthefarmer Discord

but a crafted with bravery could be nice too

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Xelakrap (젤라) Discord

Fbow is 2 handed, no?

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pechthefarmer Discord

its direct upgrade from bowgun

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Chop Discord

an aoe bow? you guys have fireball and frozen cloud that you can cast already

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Xelakrap (젤라) Discord

There's already a volley rune that enables bow aoe.

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Xelakrap (젤라) Discord

Don't think damage is int based but its an option

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Ronerin site: mjmeuer Discord

Making Thebes bow have different versions (water/wind/fire) would be pretty sweet. Maybe they could be more elementally focused with wind having a higher proc chance but lower DMG, water with less DMG per licks but more licks per proc, fire being only one lick per proc with a lower proc rate but a higher DMG burst than any single lick.

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Ronerin site: mjmeuer Discord

This could be a fun elemental quest for elves too, since more elemental line specific content was being discussed

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Legolas site: LOOT Discord

Cold Bow should be INT-based. It would give INT Elves access to both Earth and Water elements, allowing them to switch when players stack 100+ Earth Resistance. I’ve seen this done on other servers, and it made INT Elves a viable long-term class instead of becoming obsolete.

Right now, DEX Elves have an incredible amount of variety with updated bows:

  • Sayha Bow
  • Kaiser Bow
  • Moonbow
  • F Bowgun
  • Cold Bow
  • Fidelity Bow

That’s six updated bows, all of which are strong options. DEX Elves can swap between them depending on the PvP situation, giving them plenty of flexibility.

Meanwhile, there are very few INT Elves left on the server, and with the recent buffs to Wind Elves, that number is only going to keep dropping. At the current rate, there won’t be any INT Elves left because there’s simply no reason to play one long-term.

Wind Elves are already deleting people in two Triple Shots anyway. 😂 Giving Cold Bow to INT Elves wouldn’t hurt DEX Elves—it would just give another underrepresented class a reason to exist and provide some much-needed elemental diversity.

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Rufam Discord

I can definitely understand where you're coming from. However, I don't think it's realistic to solve the balance issue by changing the stats of items that have already been introduced and are currently in circulation. Players who are already using the Cold Bow should be able to keep using it as it is. Instead, I think it would make more sense to introduce other bows that are comparable in power and give INT Elves a viable alternative to choose from.

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pechthefarmer Discord edited

could make f-2h bow (could be int equivalent to cold) (aka like 3x f-scroll to make ), could make fid 1h , fid support bow fid equivalent

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Dreadful Discord

TBH most if not all prov weps used to be int based Moonbow was dex based proc thebes bow, cold bow, sayha bow were int based until most PS changed it to a set proc. kurts sword dk sword were int based until PS changed to set proc. set proc(set damage for proc) so there was always options for INT elves sword and bow. players using cold bow now its a privilege its a dex bow now or a set proc i havnt used it on this server so i can say for sure. obviously arrows do more damage with dex. adding new custom items for different stats is awesome and what not to change how people stat their character around items to give more stats in other places but INT elves need some love i dont know why you guys decided to make these changes but id like for you guys to reconsider changing/ making an int elf sword and bow.

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Tykrie Discord

ancillary to this, I would also like to see other options for different element int melee as well, as int royal, the damn thunder sword is honestly garbage. and there is no option for a fire based int weap, at least royal can get water and wind from spear and axe.

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Tykrie Discord

what if weap proc element followed elemental enchant?

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Kefka Discord

I'm not elve, but here is my suggestion: Sayha is supposed to be on top of bows, by difficulty to obtain/craft. We saw few new items in game that are an upgrade from base versions: Forbidden, stat t-shirt or now new Cap for mages. A great option could be create an advanced sayha version, that works with int/sp (maybe the magical sayha arrows?) and need a great farm to be crafted, like special items dropped by archer bosses. So this way int elves have something to pursue after thebes bow

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KrazySam Discord

On our version, the Cold Bow was originally implemented as flat damage and did not have a proc. Over time, Mephi has found better server packs with more accurate item calculations, allowing us to continually improve the server.

For the Cold Bow specifically, rather than leave it without a proc, we implemented both a fixed and random proc based on the information and tools we had available at the time. Since INT-based calculations had to be custom developed, we did the best we could with the resources we had.

This is something we’ll discuss internally to determine whether any additional adjustments are appropriate.

I also agree that more int based weapons should be available for classes wanting to build through that play style.

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Legolas site: LOOT Discord

I dig this idea as this bow does not take arrows. They are created which would be Magic in return doing Magic dmg based off Int/SP

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Ronerin site: mjmeuer Discord

Seconded. This sounds pretty cool and in theme. You could even take it a step further with an elemental affiliation to make Sayha a water theme

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pechthefarmer Discord

sayha is made with white scale , if any proc it should be call lighting aoe !

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pechthefarmer Discord

or call lighting on main target and weaker cl on targets withing x amount of cells

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Ronerin site: mjmeuer Discord

You're right, lets change to make a blue scale version that's even sexier

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Mephi Discord

i dig the idea of different element sayhas

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pechthefarmer Discord

you gonna make WDS price go to millions , already high demand for gamblers n dragon armor lol

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Ronerin site: mjmeuer Discord

Wind Sayha chain lighting, water sayha vamp touch?

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Ronerin site: mjmeuer Discord

Maybe fire Sayha some kind of debuff?

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pechthefarmer Discord

we got e-bold,fire arrow,wind shuriken,earth crap ainot?

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Ronerin site: mjmeuer Discord

Oh a low DMG high proc percent ? That sounds cool

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Rufam Discord edited

If Sayhas Bow is buffed in any way, Moon Bow which is a higher tier version should also be adjusted accordingly. In line with the recent significant buffs to DEX-based builds, how about changing the high-tier bows with a proc effects to INT-based, so that DEX and INT builds become equally viable options?

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